Reader Denver bemoans society’s unreadiness in accepting gays, and does a mea culpa for not standing up for a poor fellow gay guy. I like it that he’s a thinking gay guy — but do you agree with his opinion? I imagine a healthy discussion ensue among us here on this issue. Be open, be introspective, ponder and then tell us what you think.
Migs,
Wala lang, share ko lang sayo thought ko…
Just this morning, I overheard in the am radio news about an old gay guy who was rushed to the hospital because of constipation. After the doctors checked on him, a deaodorant tin can was found inside his anus.
As the news was being broadcast, I heard different opinions from people/co-workers around me. There were 4 of them, all women in their early 40’s
“Ano ba yan, ang tanda tanda na, hinde marunong magcontrol!”
“Ganyan talaga mga bayot! Akala siguro nya masasarapan sya.”
“Bakit ba ang daming bayot sa lipunan? Kung kamag-anak ko yan, baka kinahiya na sya ng angkan.”
“Talaga maraming bayot. Minsan nga di mo aakalain na bayot kc anlalaki ng katawan, yun pala malambot ang puso.”
This incident shows us that gay people are not yet accepted in the society. It will be long before that happens. That also explains why a lot of gay people would prefer to go “underground” because they know that society will never accept them (in this lifetime)
I dont know why people are very narrow minded on the said subject. Why do we always have to label ourselves? Maybe because that’s what society and the church has thought us, or maybe both the male and the female species are afraid that the so called “in-between” might be a superior race than them?
It all boils down to having self-respect. If you respect yourself, you have to respect other people as well, no matter what their sex or race is. We are all created by only one creator, and no matter who we are, or what we are, we are still human beings, who needs love and affection.
I felt bad about the incident. I felt bad about the old gay guy. He’s already hurt, and people around him (people that dont know him) still continued to hurt him emotionally.
I felt bad that I did not speak up in behalf of the old gay guy.
I still say this is not yet the time. Society is not ready!
- Denver
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“If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, then what am I? And if not now, when?” — Rabbi Hillel (one of the most influential scholars in Jewish history)
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nakakagulat naman yan. totoo ba yan?
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Oh, so that was what the news on tv is all about. the guy who was operated on is complaining that doctors/nurses/medical attendants took a video while he was undergoing the medical procedure then leaked the evidence to the public. tsk tsk tsk…i see suspension of professional licenses at the very least…
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although our society in general is not ready, i think it’s safe for me to assume that it slowly becoming is. we here in the Philippines are already lucky enough to have enough means of communicating our identity as homosexuals compared to our neighboring countries.
i read this article before written by an American. and he goes on explaining why he thinks that being gay in the Philippines is so much better than being gay in the US, given that the US labeled itself as “the Land of the Free”.
Having said this, true. gay marriages and same sex adoptions may not be legal here in the country (blame it also on the fact that the Church has a strong voice), but i do think that i’m lucky to live here in the Philippines.
case in point: homosexuality is deemed a crime in other countries. sodomy may even lead you to a death sentence.
that said. i’m already happy that i can hold hands with my boyfriend in the mall without having to worry what others may think.
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You guys can read the news about it here:
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/news/view/20080415-130504/Video-scandal-grips-Cebu-hospital
The guy is in his 30’s. Does that make him old? This guy is a victim of ethical irresponsibility, on top of the many stereotypes and condescending comments heaped on him because of the incident.
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this is sick. check it out for yourselves. its in youtube. check vicente sotto hospital scandal “the black suede” and you can tell how they react on this matter.
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malamang ang mga mujeres na itech, naiskyerdahan ng mga julakech nila kaya bitter-bitter-an. jozkoh naman, may i close na nga ang 00’s, umi-isyu pa ba itu? it’s like soooo 80’s. roderick paulate/herbert bautista 80’s. BWHAHAHAHAHA. sbagay, papa-uso na naman yata talaga ang dekadang iyun. if i know, kaya laging pudpod ang lipstick ng mga vavaitang itu, eh super may i try ng shimmering rose si junior nilah. LOL.
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Well, I have several thoughts on the matter and they’re not necessarily on the same side of the “issue”.
[1] Why use a deodorant tin can in the first place?
[2] What people say in public may not necessarily reflect what they really, honestly feel. Sometimes they say things just to agree with the majority. Sometimes they say things because they want to protect an image they want to project.
[3] I find the second and third comments offensive. The second is a hasty generalization of all gays, and the third states that families should be ashamed of gays.
[4] I don’t think it’s necessary to defend the old man in public. Kasi naman even among gay men, we’d disagree over what he did. Some will say, “Leave him with his deodorant spray!” Others will say, “Good lord, one can buy a reasonably priced dildo these days!”
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And I respect you for that Denver, I myself was once cloistered looking for the answers. I also pity that old gay guy but I pity more those who seem not yet ready to accept that gays are also human beings and that they are components of the society. Bigotry sucks and it may take a long time to see the light at the end of the tunnel…^^
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Just maintain your dignity amidst the discrimination of the seemingly not ready society.
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definitely, very depressing ang news. i dont know why people have to resort to such kind of passion just to derive pleasure. perhaps hindi pa sya sawa sa ganyang bagay… kung ang gay ay tumatanda, dapat ang sexual appetite nya ay naiibsan na rin… di bah…???
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i watched the video and somehow bumaba ang tingin ko sa mga nurses and doctors na andun.
i pity the guy, i pity those who made fun of him. kung sa akin nangyari yan, demanda ang abot nila. an operation like that should be confidential…
oh well, let’s talk about Gloria naman… and the so-called rice crisis…
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Let me restate that story…
The incident happen last January (as reported in the news) I think most of you hear about Danilo (not his real name) a gay guy from Cebu who underwent an operation at the Vicente Sotto Memorial Hospital here in Cebu. Apparently, he hired a call boy that stupidly put this deodorant tin can inside is anus. He was operated last January.
A week ago, a video of his operation spread like wildfire around the net and on the cellphones. You can still actually see it in youtube.
I feel sad for this guy. And after what happened to him, people still had the nerve to judge him like that? Those stupid doctors should be stripped with their licensed for spreading the video!
You call urselves doctors when U dont know how to respect other people?
Denver/Fatboyslim
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Heres a clip of the said video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ri1qq7aoY
You be the judge!
Tama ba pinag-gagawa nila???
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Well to be fair, it would have been hard for anyone to back up (no pun intended) that particular gay guy with his mishap (is this the one in Cebu?).
I agree Denver, it all boils down to respect and one need to respect oneself first. Aerosol up the ass doesn’t exactly scream respect, though you have to admit amusing…. I mean there are proper…ummm… implements for that.
Will society ever be ready? No, not unless we make them ready. Make them question their values and beliefs. Make them listen and open forums where all these different views can be discussed openly and without prejudices. We don’t need to start big…we can start small. Our close friends, our family, our colleagues. Make them aware and sooner than later people will start to understand.
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Society will never be ready to accept people like us unless we first accept and be proud of who we are. I can understand why straight people ridicule us, that is simply ignorance. What I cant understand is when gays are the ones who persecute their own kind. I wish we should be the first to defend ourselves and be proud of who we are or what orientation we choose. The society can not dictate on us unless we allow it.
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i don’t agree that society is not ready. there have been gays all throughout our history and society cannot not be ready for this. i think the reason why homosexuality has been more accepted in other countries is because they understand that being gay is no different from being straight. whereas in our culture being gay is always associated with conspicuous and lewd lifestyle. this is because this is how they see us generally. this is because this is what we show everybody else. i think that what is more bothering is the fact that while we have all the opportunities to prove them otherwise every available gay oriented movie show the stereotype homosexual. we cannot obligued society to understand us but we can show them our real worth.
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I do not care what other people think nor do I let it affect me. I have better things to do. I’d like to think that the gay man is the pinnacle of human evolution. Don’t you agree?
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meron po bang link yan sa you tube gusto ko mapanood!
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I have seen that on the news. Medical professionals taking vidoe of the operation and guffawing at the revealed item taken from the operation. I feel for the patient as his privacy was so violated. The guy can really sue those in the hospital. The medical proffesionals were such a mess reacting like a bunch of loose mad cow.
As for the subject of the scandal, I agree that he shold have had more control. I mean, he should have known what he was getting into. So this reminds us that we should all still be careful. I really don’t see that as a gender issue. It was more of a patient’s privacy and of responsible acts.
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yeah…. maybe society’s isn’t or is it?…. di kaya nagkataon lang na ang mga narining mong nag comment ay mga 40 something na at medyo old school na ang pananaw nila sa pagiging gay?… kc in this age and time, gays( in whatever form) are praised/commended whenever they achieved something… pero pag nagkamali or nagkasala nakaakibat agad yung proverbial phrase na “kasi bakla yan eh”….. un lang
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kasi naman deodorant tin can…di kaya natutunaw yun! lukaret ang lola..dapat fire extinguisher na lang! charos! hay….see what desperation does to an old gay guy…yoko ng tumanada!
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too bad. unless those testosterone driven yet stupid mammals get educated well, criticism based on erroneous perception will always be in full swing. they are simply a bunch of mediocre who cant handle their insecurities. being a straight male does not make anyone above other people. what matters most is acceptance- that all of us are entitled to fair share of everything and we can live harmoniously together.
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So sad the story. I leave it to the more intellectual gays to debate or discuss on this one. Go go go sisters! Makikibasa lang ako ng opinions nyo.
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im also inlcuding women who attack gays in general. have a life coz we are trying.
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The indifference and disgust they exhibited did not come as a surprise to me.
What can you expect from such species that do not even have an ounce of braveness left in
them to examine their own blunders and humbly admit them without any reservations. How
hypocritical and narrow-minded many people can be, to think these same humans who showed the
worst form of bigotry and condemnation profess to be Christians!
I have always shown respect to anyone regardless of the gender orientation, skin colour,
religious background, educational achievement, ethnic origin, or social standing, but here
we have so-called God-fearing animals uttering pejorative against a man with a different yet
unique sexual preference and of advanced age, damning him even at a critical moment when he
badly needed medical succor, human understanding, and genuine sympathy from fellow humans.
How unfortunate for him that his condition was announced to the whole world for the
“elf-styled moralists” to tackle with much funfare to the man’s unexpected shock! The use
of such specific appellation as “bayot”, which is a Cebuano slang for a transvestite or the
Cebuano equivalent of the Tagalog term “bakla”, was a classic example of discrimination
and abhorrence of the worst kind and was uncalled for. You can call a straight guy or woman by
his or her nickname or given name, but you cannot call or you decline to address a gay person by
his Christian name for the simple reason that he is gay and, instead, call him “bakla or
bayot”, which only confirms the unpleasant fact that countless people in this world of
plasticity have never accepted gays as their absolute equals - which also reinforces the
belief that these same indifferent people are downright immature and, therefore, need to be
re-educated.
Homosexuality as a gender orientation is something to be proud of, but having women who do not know
how to wash their vagina after urinating and changing their panty as many times as I do is something
I cannot accept! Nor can I respect women who still cling to their partners despite the battery they
have gone through because they are weakling, stupid, and blind!
I am not only seething with madness. I am showing pity towards them for they have never
grown up and embraced gays as equal members of the mainstream society.
Jigen Riztag
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I mistakenly entered the word “braveness” when in fact I was thinking of the term “courage”. I stand corrected and am sorry for the mistake:
“…What can you expect from such species that do not even have an ounce of “braveness” left in…”
Jigen Riztag
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Grabe naman to…
tulad ng nasa TV patrol kagabi na pagkuha ng video habang inooperahan ang gay na anu ba yun may bote sa anus niya…vinidyuhan ng mga nasa paligid at yung doctor napakawalang hiya talaga…sa cebu yata nangyari…
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Haha watta incident… Sana kasi kahit bading sya nagasawa sya ng babae na mahal nya hindi puro kalandian. Edi mganda sana buhay nya. We can be ourselves but God’s rules still prevail. And why not give a chance n magmahal ng babae kahit binabae ka, magiging masaya ka rin nman dun eh. At once na magka anak ka, magiiba opinyon mo sa buhay. Follow God’s rules. Ang libog panandalian lang yan. peace.
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dami naman kasing mga baklang pasaway dyan especially yung mga burara type. yan na kahit mga paminta nadadamay
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I’m an out gay guy, and I’m considering going underground. It’ll be a pretty big change, but I’m curious, I’d like to know just what “accepted” is.
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i think this refers to the news of a gay guy who was operated to remove the perfume bottle inside his rectum in one of the hospitals in cebu. The problem was he later found (after 4 months)that his operation has been recorded by a cellphone video and has been scattered already, he was informed that it was even uploaded sa youtube…
tinalo pa daw ang search for truth ni Lozada sa riot at hiyawan nung nailabas na ang bottle and 1 of them sprayed the bottle. Punong puno pa ng mga nursing students with celfons ang OR…
Nakakalungkot dahil we are talking of professionals here (Doctor and nurses)at ang venue ay hospital hindi palengke na pwede pa nating mapatawad.
good that the PRC, DOH, Comm on Human Rights and other agencies are investigating it now… sana the involved will be prosecuted and convicted para d na tularan.
P.S. wag gumamit ng perfume bottle
ang layo ng comment ko
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Easier said than done maybe but saying something like, “Hindi naman ganyan katanga ang lahat ng mga bading. I SHOULD KNOW!” would’ve worked. A person dumb enough to do this does NOT represent me as a gay person at all. What an annoying article. What exactly is your point? How can you expect people to accept ang mga kabaklaan when (1) stupid acts like this make gays look bad and (2) when closeted (I assume) people stay closeted and find justifications for staying so? Coming out is not possible for lahat and I understand for some it’s a matter of life and death, pero for others I think it’s just a case of PURE AND SIMPLE COWARDICE. I don’t know his story at all but it may be that the letter writer is looking for justification to continue hiding in the closet. My personal coming out process has been a long and difficult but mostly, if not totally, successufl so I don’t have any patience for those who don’t try na walang good reason.
It’s obviously your site, Mr. Migs, so you can do as you please but this whole closeted gay guy sub-genre is so repetitive it’s ruining an otherwise good blog. Kumagat lang ako this time dahil sa silliness ng article.
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You can’t blame them, sometimes it is the “queerness” of our actions that brings stigma to our kind. As Denver had stated “It all boils down to having self-respect”. Many of our kind had already gained the respect of the society because they had led good and respectable lives. Mama Ricky Reyes is a good example.
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Hmm, okay.. If the news happened to be about a woman who inserted a deodorant can in her butt, i think it would’ve garnered the same exaggerated reactions from your audience. Gay or straight, a deodorant tin can inside the butt is well… at least amusing
(Aminin!)
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But the issue here, for those who didn’t see what the news was all about, was privacy. The young man had to undergo an operation, and the freaking entire operating staff shot footage on celphones and posted it on the internet. His surgeons, nurses, doctors, etc, are seen mocking, laughing, prancing around, and ridiculing the situation. Very unprofessional. That’s why the man has filed suit.
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This man is going to win the case for millions. A deodorant in the butt. Lawsuit. Millions! Now that’s funny as hell!
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It’s because of the people like this old gay who makes every reason for the society to hate us. His behavior deviates to what is acceptable, even to us. No normal thinking gay would insert something, let alone a deodorant tin, just because he is horny at that time and no one’s there to do the things he want. But, I would also like to make a point that people should not scrutinize every gay just because he is gay. Society are bounded by norms and some norms are made by ultra conservative ones who just want to let others know that they are righteous above everyone else. And these norms make every gay life miserable. It’s time to stand up for our rights, as human beings. We can make a difference… and it starts in your own self. You can’t let others understand you, if you don’t really understand yourself. You can’t love others, if you haven’t loved yourself. You can’t gain respect from them, if you don’t have self-respect. Think. Feel. Learn.
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I love the way this article was written.
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You have to understand that these people are in their 40s. Believe me, the generations after them are more open to homosexuals.
And it includes even the straight guys.
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And by the way, what he did was something out of this world. A PLU friend told me of the news. Sabi ko sa kanya, of all the things na gagawin niyang dildo eh deodorant tin can pa.
He must be repressing himself too much.
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These people who used to have a bad comments to a third sex people are narrow minded and idiot creation, for they do not know what they are talking about. Are they perfect enough to say some bad thing to other people? If they know the word respect and well educated person thy should know how to react from the situation where they are not affected or concerned. I thik this person is a big liable of Philippine society for his IDIOT remarks….
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yes, this is a pity. But I think we’re still far better off compared to 10 years ago
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well it’s ok not to stand up for the old man because it is a laughable matter and we’d laugh just as hard if it was a straight person in that situation (imagine a straight guy sustaining penile injury after having sex with the vacuum cleaner- saw that on Rescue 911 before). This isn’t a gay issue. But it DID provoke gay issues among your co-workers who are damn ignorant. sadly marami pang ganyan sa atin. Mga mang-mang. Maybe you could’ve said “excuse me, pero di lahat ng bading mahilig magsaksak ng kung anu-ano sa pwet no!”
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i’ve seen the video..
kawawa naman ang lola natin, naiwan na nga yung spray sa wetpaks nia, pinagtawanan pa ng mga asa operating room, plus of course pati yung mga non-PLU comments…
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When I was studying for a master’s in a university along Taft, one of my classmates (an older woman) told the others that I will never be successful because I am gay. “Ang mga bakla talaga, hindi aasenso yan.” I used her remark as a challenge.
Dont ask me where I am now, baka dumami ang suitors ko, ha,ha,ha.
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Our society today is more open, tolerant, accepting (choose the term you’re most comfortable with) with persons of different sexual orientations. But I don’t think it can ever come to terms with men (or women) sticking deodorant tin can in his anus. It’s one thing to be gay; it’s another thing to be “tanga”.
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di pa ba open eh kaliwa’t kanan ka bumaling bakla ang makikita mo. saka gawain ba naman talaga ng matinong tao ang magpasok ng deodorant sa anus nila, straigt man o bakla. ang ganung gawain ang hindi natangap ng society dahil di pa naman talaga ready ang pilipinas sa fetish o kung ano man ang tawag dyan. di na ako magugulat kung sa susunod eh bakla at aso naman ang ma ospital.
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I think the old gay guy made a mistake of using a deodorant can for his pleasure, but I think the doctors should’ve been professional about it. This is from an email I’d like to share to all of you, and hopefully there are straight people out there who might read this and maybe change your opinions on homosexuals. Homosexuality is NOT a choice. We were born this way and God never makes mistakes.
“I am the boy who never finished high school, because I got called a fag everyday.
I am the girl kicked out of her home because I confided in my mother that I am a lesbian.
I am the prostitute working the streets because nobody will hire a transsexual woman.
I am the sister who holds her gay brother tight through the painful, tear-filled nights.
We are the parents who buried our daughter long before her time.
I am the man who died alone in the hospital because they would not let my partner of twenty-seven years into the room.
I am the foster child who wakes up with nightmares of being taken away from the two fathers who are the only loving family I have ever had. I wish they could adopt me.
I am not one of the lucky ones. I killed myself just weeks before graduating high school. It was simply too much to bear.
I am the (wo)man who fears that I will never be able to be myself, to be free of this secret because I won’t risk losing my family and friends.
We are the couple who had the realtor hang up on us when she found out we wanted to rent a one-bedroom for two men.
I am the person who never knows which bathroom I should use if I want to avoid getting the management called on me.
I am the mother who is not allowed to even visit the children I bore, nursed, and raised. The court says I am an unfit mother because I now live with another woman.
I am the domestic-violence survivor who found the support system grow suddenly cold and distant when they found out my abusive partner is also a woman.
I am the domestic-violence survivor who has no support system to turn to because I am male.
I am the father who has never hugged his son because I grew up afraid to show affection to other men.
I am the home-economics teacher who always wanted to teach gym until someone told me that only lesbians do that.
I am the woman who died when the EMTs stopped treating me as soon as they realized I was transsexual.
I am the person who feels guilty because I think I could be a much better person if I didn’t have to always deal with society hating me.
I am the man who stopped attending church, not because I don’t believe, but because they closed their doors to my kind.
I am the person who has to hide what this world needs most, love.
I am the person ashamed to tell my own friends I’m a lesbian, because they constantly make fun of them.
I am the boy tied to a fence, beaten to a bloody pulp and left to die because two straight men wanted to “teach me a lesson”
“
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Search Vicente scandal on youtube. Napaka unprofessional tlga ng mga pilipino. Bwiset!!!!!!!! Rerekla reklamo pa tayo sa desperate housewives totoo naman pala tungkol sa medical practitioners sa pinas.
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commenters, what’s the big to do about the deodorant tin can?
the issue is privacy and patient rights.
you mean what the guy did is more disgusting for you than what those docs and nurses did? ano bang kaipokritahan ito sa ating hanay?
and i can’t fathom the fact that some gay bloggers who left comments here actually have out of this world opinions, really off tangent, if you ask me. mali ang priorities. eh dapat sila nga ang nang iimpluwensya sa hanay natin para madala tayo sa tamang landas. hindi nakakatulong sa gay movement and sa pag usad ng ating bansa sa naayong kamalayan. very disappointing.
i’m not casting judgment on the victim and how he got to the hospital, i am judging the medical professionals who were involved, because they failed their patient, BIG TIME!
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Its really fortunate for me that my straight peers, as in my friends and my officemates, are being very open, tolerant and accepting on me being gay. paano ko nasabi, kasi pinakita ko sa kanila yung video. Their first comment is not all about “kung paano nagkaroon ng deodorant can sa wetpaks ng guy” but all about sa “napaka-unprofessional ng mga doctors and medical persons sa OR at ginawa nilang laughing stock yung case nung patient.” It is maybe out of respect of me or they were already matured enough to accept us, gay people. Whatever the case, i feel very fortunate on opening to them.
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University along Taft? Hehehehe. Green Archer ka rin?
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as the saying goes, you can’t please everyone.
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hinde issue dito ang pagiging bakla,kung ikaw ay matinong tao gagawin mo ba ang ginawa na lalaking ito. na alam mo malalagay sa kahihiyan ang buhay mo pag me nakaalam. at ang mga Doctors and Nurses ng ospital malamang hinde rin sila matitinong tao.para silang mga baliw sa kanilang ginawa. respeto lang naman sa bawat isa yan ang kulang sa atin…
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disturbing video. not because of the black suede but because of the general callousness and lack of professionalism of the people in the OR. even more disturbing is that it seems like all that ruckus was being instigated by the surgeon himself (who has bad english grammar by the way).
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IT: I agree that the issue would have been about the patient’s rights if the main point of Denver’s letter or of this post was about what happened (and what happened after) to the poor guy, but it wasn’t. I agree that what the hospital staff did was deplorable. I don’t think anyone will say otherwise. It was a bad situation made worse…. but one must realize that this isn’t about gay rights in particular. This is just regular patient’s rights.
The question though was if society is ready to accept homosexuals and you have to admit that his incident (unfortunate as it is) does not really help in improving people’s views of gay men. Don’t get me wrong, I am not condemning the victim, I feel sorry for him and would definitely try to help him if I knew him.
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Which is worse : the medical staff who took a video of this guy or those of us who make fun of him and leave reckless comments on this blog?
The poor guy is a victim 4 times over.
First,based on the report from the Cebu Daily News, the Black Suede tin can was forced into this man’s anus by a callboy who felt insulted when this guy purportedly made snide remarks about the callboy’s small sexual organ.
Second, the VSMMC staff jeered, made fun of, and without this guy’s consent videotaped him.
Third, we jeer and make more fun of him through this blog.
And fourth, reports from the Cebu Daily News today say that he had been threatened by those who are now being held liable for the surfacing of the video. Sad. Sad indeed.
And yes, think of the trauma this guy will have to endure for the rest of his life.
But having said that, I can almost see a rejoinder to my comment to the tune of: what do we care?
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People tend to condemn gays kahit nde pa nila naririnig ang buong istorya. Look at the scenario, these 4 ladies havent even heard of the whole news broadcast, kanya kanya na silang comment about the gay guy.
At least now that the news is out nationwide, Danilo would get more sympathy than negative comments about what happened.
HAYOP talaga yung mga Doctor na yun! NAPAKAHAYOP NILA! WALANG PINAG-ARALAN! Dapat talaga MATANGGALAN SILA NG LISENSYA!
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“joy Says:
April 17th, 2008 at 12:07 am
di pa ba open eh kaliwa’t kanan ka bumaling bakla ang makikita mo. saka gawain ba naman talaga ng matinong tao ang magpasok ng deodorant sa anus nila, straigt man o bakla. ang ganung gawain ang hindi natangap ng society dahil di pa naman talaga ready ang pilipinas sa fetish o kung ano man ang tawag dyan. di na ako magugulat kung sa susunod eh bakla at aso naman ang ma ospital.
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I cant believe you wrote this…ang babaw mo ateh saka next time gamitin mo yung utak mo bago ka mag comment..baka naliligaw ka ng website? Why dont you go back to your mother and ask her to teach you some manners.
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the gay guy who had a tin can on his ass is dumb. he should have been wise enough to know the risk in his experimentation. he has to be blamed if gay pinoys are getting negative publicity due to his blunder.
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what am station are you listening to? with the kind of commentators they have this station doesn’t deserve a single ear. hope you could publish the name of the station & the commentators as well so we could boycott them. broadcasters are expected to be neutral on every issue. not only with gender issues. that’s in the code of ethics for broadcast-journalism. i hope they keep this in mind. i believe that’s one of the good things we can do for the man who was attacked & hurt of this comment.
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I work in the same hospital and operating room where the operation happened but luckily it happened not in my shift. Like most of you I also believe that there was a breach of privacy because it was video recorded, passed around and was later uploaded to the internet. The guy is not old–he is only in his early 30’s. It happened last January. According to him he had drinking session with other guys and woke up feeling uncomfortable in that part. AFter several days of trying to get it out, he finally got the balls to ask for help. It was an easy minor operation but if they can’t get it out by pulling it through the anus they have to open him and open his large intestines to get the tube. We don’t often have these kinds of freak operations. So because of the novelty of the operation people wanted to witness how it is done. Those people inside the operating room are just human. It was a mistake but no malice was intended. They talked about the operation not the sexuality of the person and were finally relieved to see the canister come out. No part of his face was shown in the video; only his anus. I can’t help to wonder why he had to claim to all people that that was him in the video when he knows that it is going to put him in greater shame. Answer? Self-respect? Justice? Wanted to correct a wrong thing done to him? —why the hospital? he should find the guy who stuck that to his anus first if he wants justice before suing the hospital and doctors who operated on him pro bono. Later, after it was aired by the local channel. He expresed interest in accepting bayad for the damages done to him by the video. Ewan talagang parang maling maling mali.
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heres the video of the scandal… its really disturbing. im not sure f this site s still available baka na remove na.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GwCo4u7YcVA
if nasa US cguro nagyaro yon hindi lang revocation of license ang mangyari, kulong tlaga…
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result of the investigation by the hospital admin will be announced tomorrow…at pangalanan daw ang mga involved!!! abangan…
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hindi na talaga magbabago ang tingin nila sa mga bading sa Pinas…kaawawa..malaking pasalamat kaming mga pinoy na bading sa London o sa iab mang panig ng Europa ,hindi namin nararanasan ang ganyang mga bagya bagay…laht dito pantay pantay mapastraight or gay…kaya kung ako sa inyo relocate kayo sa Europe para maranasan nyo ang ganda ng buhya ng pagiging GAY….
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Actually, what really irked me when I read this on the paper was the breach of patient-doctor confidentiality– the subtle gay bashing was just icing to the cake. As far as I know, the patient filed a formal complaint against all those involved, although I really doubt anything good will come of it. Most of the time, imbes na maawa ung mga tao sa mga gay victims, nagiging laughing stock pa.
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Parang walang pinag aralan ang mag doctors at nurses sa ospital na yun…I boycott at tanggalang sila ng license…
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I’ve just watched the video.
First, I think we have to give a benefit of the doubt to the patient. We really don’t know how that thing was inserted through his anus. I mean, is it really true that he is drunk, so he didn’t know what is being inserted to his anus? or is it with his consent? Only the patient knew about it. Kasi if with his consent, I think there is no one to blame but him per se. Please don’t make me wrong, I know everyone has their right to do what they want but I think we also have to be responsible for the consequences.
Second: for the doctors and nurses, yes, i agree what they did was wrong. No excuses can be made. Im also in the medical field pero hindi dapat ganuon ang attitude nila kahit rare pa yung case, they can smile or tumawa but not that loud, sobra talaga. But in the footage that I saw, the patient face nor even parts of the body that will pertain to him were not shown, only the anus which we all have, kahit balat or ano mang marks e di nakita. So in the first place, why does he have to admit na siya yung nasa footage?, mayroon ba siyang ibang intensyon of doing it? Only the patient can answer this one too.
Third: Sa Philippines or even other parts of the world lalo na sa middle east, third sex are not that accepted yet or should not exist at all. We have to admit, na kahit papaano, mayroon pa rin discrimination. I agree with one of the commentor, marami pa rin kasing gay na pasayaw. I’ve mentioned this before, na kung walang gagawin ang mga gay kundi gumewang at kumenbot kung lumakad, mag flip ng mga daliri, manghada ng manghada, mag ingay at humalakhak ng humalakhak, how do we expect others to respect us. Sige nga, kung PLU will behave properly kahit mahinhin, at maging mayaman lahat o may pusisyon sa lipunan, tignan ko lang kung hindi lahat ng lalaki maging babae e magpanggap na sila ay gay kahit hindi. Ano sa tingin nyo? Yes, marami na namang magsasabi, “wala akong pakialam sa sasabihin ng iba at gagawin ko lahat ang gusto ko”, don’t you think u r being selfish and irresponsible, for sure marami talagang madadamay.
So comment lang ha, bato bato sa langit, tamaan wag magagalit, look muna tayo sa uling sa ating mukha before we poke someone. Wag naman tayong masyadong pasayaw, let us respect ourselves first before we can ask others to do the same thing for us.
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i have to comment on what passer_by said. On the video the people were guffawing and laughing their hearts out and were saying things that were very offensive like baby out and putting in back the canister. How can passer_by say that there was no malice? The fact stands that the doctors and nurses acted way out of line and unprofessionally. I heard that Cebu doctors are good but this incident has put a big stain on the health care here in the Philippines….shame
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All I can say is what the medical team did to the patient is OUTRAGEOUS. They have no respect for other people’s feelings and private affairs. Sunugin ang mga yan sa impierno, tanggalan sana kayo ng lisyensa nang hindi kayo makapag-practice. Bakit so totoo lang, hindi rin kaya nila ginagawa itong ‘bagay’ na ito ? Just asking
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this is such a tragedy to all of us…
here’s my take on this issue:
1) we should really not care about what the guy shove up his ass (it is his ass and he have all the right putting whatever he wants to put in it), in reality, what happened is a general insult to all of us. Come to think of it there has been a lot of instances that people put something in their orifice (watch Ripley’s, House M.D., what made these people decide to record it is that they find it funny. Hey the Gay community has been ridiculed ever since Filipinos started to walk! This is just an example that WE should always carry ourselves the best way we can.
2) I am disgusted that Doctors would do it to a patient. Come on, I am sure that 90% of our population dreamed of becoming a doctor when we were kids, thinking that is is the best and most revered occupation. This just shows how our moral standards deteriorates as we become more technological.
I fell sorry for the guy, he did not use his brain before putting that ‘thing’ up his anus.
But more importantly, I feel sorry for those people who recorded it. They have no respect, sound moral judgment and shame. Digital na ang karma, bai!
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@sharon bading — lukaret ka rin talaga. kaya dumadami ang problema eh, hindi muna inaalam kung ano ang nangyari.
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@passer_by — maling, maling, mali rin ang reasoning mo. in the first place, it is NOT ethical to video any medical operation or procedure, UNLESS you get a permission from the patient. in this case, a doctor asked him about the video AFTER it was done. he was not aware of the implications.
secondly, the patient’s baranggay captain knew it was in that hospital because he claims to know the background of the video. one move resulted in another and another…
what about the one who posted the video? you didn’t say anything about him/her. mali din di ba?
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I sympathize with the gay guy and I don ‘t condone any form of bashing especially of one’s sexual orientation. But, don’t you agree that in the gay community, there are a lot of members who comport themselves in public as screaming, loud, crass, sexually promiscuous etc, that actually gives the straights and the church reasons to look down on us. The case of the deodorant tin can up that old guy’s ass drives home my point. He had it coming, so to speak. So to all gays, always rememner that respect begets respect
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…dapat tanggalan ng license yung mga nagcam..
…society is ready; some are just really “makitid”
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shame on you PASSER_BY!!
you should be thankful you were not there that time, otherwise you’re one of those disgusting people cheering during the procedure…and by now like those idiots, you must be scared of losing your profession….you should go back where they teach common sense….or nabibili ba yon?
you were right, the sexuality is not the issue…but the confidentialy…. and what disgusts me…the sight of those people cheering and laughing like having a big celebration and people taking pictures like crazy…all those inside the OR are GUILTY!!!
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shame on ‘em..
thu? who cares.. i rather thin kna mamatay na ang lahat ng hetero kugn yan sila labsaw mag-isip, i don’ give a eff*n damn shit!
mas nakakaawa sila kaysa sa atin (just in my own thoughts). errr.
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LESSONS of this story:
Manufacturers shouldn’t be encouraged to make long tubular body spray containers. Old gay guys oftentimes mistake it for something else especially when thrill gets in the way, when all the lights are off. (I hope it’s not the case of having a poor eyesight, lesson therefore would be “eat more calabasa!”).
Cellphones shouldn’t be permitted inside the operating room, at least those that have cameras. Medical practitioners can be tempted to take shots of their patients’ unglorious moment, which in turn puts their profession in danger. Holding a camera is not their forte!
Thou shall not laugh at someone else’s misfortune. Body sprays, like humans, also feel humiliated when parked in places where they’re not welcome. It, literally and figuratively, feels like being stuck in deep shit!
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@jt - idol kita talaga …magmula noon hanggang ngayon
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Hay, just be responsible. Its like having super powers, like spider man. Be responsible with everything you do, tell and show.
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its not that gays are not accepted but there is a whole race of idiots out there trying to dampen our colorful spirits…tsk tsk
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@ matt,
Thanks for the complement. But I think what has been written are just plain and simple logic and following the golden rules.
Like what vinnierose have said and what I believe too, that: we don’t have the right na makialam to what other people wanted to put in their body. Rights nila yun as long as you don’t harm others.
We also don’t have the right to judge or even persecute others on their preferences whether it is religion, sexual orientation and the likes. Buhay nila iyon, but I have already mentioned, just be responsible and brave enough the face the consequences it may produce, good or bad.
Duon sa mga 4 ladies na nag-comment, e opinion nila iyon, di natin sila mapipilit. ganuon talaga ang buhay, we cannot please everybody. But please do remember what Jesus have said to the people persecuting Mary Magdalene “Sino sa inyo ang walang kasalanan at malinis, ang siyang unang pumukol ng bato si babaing ito”. The problem to most of us, e we don’t admit we have wrong doings, denial baga, and assuming malinis at moral, so how do we expect us or them to change.
Medyo malayo sa topic, but please i ask everyone look to most of the commentors in this blog. Diba, ang dami comments na may sense and logical, fair and kind. So we can definitely prove to the world that most gay people are kind-hearted, defintely intelligent, logical and fair. Kaya kung lahat tayo ay successful and respectful, I believe respecting gay people will comes naturally, hindi na dapat ipilit sa kahit kanino man. Thanks.
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May those involved lose their medical license. Period.
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I work as an RN here in california. What happened in that hospital is so degrading. They should not allow so much people inside the OR especially with cellphones. Kung nagkukwetuhan kami ng mga co-nurses ko tungkol sa topic na yan parang ano na ba ang nangyayari sa Pinas. Parang mahirap ikwento sa mga puti. Sana magkaisa ang mga third sex sa Pinas para maparusuhan kung sino ang mga may kagagawan. Migs bigay mo naman cp ni ahron Villena. I am coming home next month. I want to date him. graye78@yahoo.com
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People around the world face violence and inequality – and sometimes torture, even execution – because of who they love, how they look, or who they are.
Sexual orientation and gender identity are integral aspects of our selves and should never lead to discrimination or abuse.
yun lang!!!!!! tnx
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i guess we have learned some lessons on respect from both ends of this story. on the side of the doctors who handled the operation: respect the rights of your patients and respect the oath you’ve sworn into when you entered this noble profession. and from the side of the patient: respect your body. gay or straight, i guess it’s common sense and sound judgment to desist from putting any objects that we know would be harmful to us.
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I read a follow up article in inquirer.net, regarding this incident. I was thinking of this while walking home after work: Desperate Housewives…
Remember when a lot our our kababayans in US complained the unfair comment that Terry Hatcher made in one of the episodes of Season 4??? Remember how disgusted we (I) were when she said that Filipinos are not fit as doctors (to that effect)… Don’t this incident just proves how true that comment can be??? This might be an isolated case, however this should not be dealt lightly as this implies how weak our justice system, professional ethics and substantially our morality is.
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…at parang na-amaze sila sa ‘extraordinary-ness’ of the said operation kaya kinunan ng video? nakakaloka ka passer_by. Baka andun ka sa video or kasali ka talaga. ching!
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The latest news on this said incident….
The Dept of Health has named 3 Doctors and 2 Nurses involved in the said operation. Its all over the paper today.
So what if they are named, when will they be charged? Ano naman ikkaso sa kanila?
I say, revoked their licensed!
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Saw an article the other day, the writer said, Danilo (the victim) should at least be thankful to the doctors who removed the tin can from his anus.
Why should he be thankful for? For the humiliation he