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Jul 03
Thursday
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Tuli or not tuli

Hey Migs!

It’s only recently that I discovered your site, but I’m now an avid reader of your blogs/posts. Some are encouraging, others are very, very stimulating. Anyway, I wanna share something that may arise some curiosity to our readers.

As we all know, we are in a country that is pre-dominantly catholic. Most often than not, we follow all catholic practices, from our very colorful fiestas, to our mournful holy week, and of course, circumcision (or pagtutuli, in our filipino linggo). Most of the filipino men are circumcised at an average age of 10-12 years old. Aside from it being a religious practice and hygienic practice, it’s usually a “right of passage” for the boys. If you’re circumcised, it’s as if you’re already a full-fledge man and you can do whatever you want. Boys begin to explore how to masturbate, watch porn with their friends (or even older bros), and even compare how one’s circumcised penis is different from the other boys. The deepness of a boy’s voice is often connected if he is already circumcised. The growth spurt is also connected of the boy being circumcised. But how what about an uncircumcised boy? Does he still experience what a circumcised boy is going through? Or does he stay being a “boy” if he stays being uncircumcised?


Dating an Uncut Guy

I have been dating this guy, who I had no idea he was uncut until we had sex a few months ago. I met him through downelink (and no, i won’t give out his account for security reasons. Sorry boys, but he told me that he was mine ahahaha). He wasn’t the “hunky” guy, but he had this “boy-next-door” look paired with his glasses that simply gave his sexual appeal a boost. After a few days of chatting over downelink, we decided to give out our mobile numbers and decided to meet somewhere. After my class, I went directly to our meeting place and waited for him for about an hour since my class was dismissed earlier. After a few minutes, he approached me and boy, he was about 5′11 tall, a bit dark, and his voice was HEAVENLY. Overall, he was tooooo sexy for me. Anyway, we chatted for about an hour and we decided to catch the night scene. I enjoyed his company so much that I kept on holding his hand during the duration we were in the club. He then drove me to my place and we said our good nights to each other.


Virgin

We dated more after our first meeting, going out in malls, watching a movie, or catch the night scene. Being with him was simply heaven for me. When we got closer to each other, I then began asking him about more personal facts. When I asked him if we was still a virgin, he said yes and I was in disbelief. How can a guy like him be virgin at his age? He told me that he was reserving something “special” for that “someone.” Of course, I assumed that was me, but I didn’t tell him so I wouldn’t blow off my chances that easily. Weeks passed and we finally got together. Him and me, against the world. What a wonderful feeling. I have been with guys in the past, but nothing really compares to how he makes me feel. Anyway, my place was free one night and we decided to take a rest from all the hectic partying scene and just have time to ourselves. Of course, we were cuddling with each other and I finally had the courage to ask him if he wanted to do it. He was silent at first but then told me that whatever happens, him and me would be still together. I laughed at what he said because I have already accepted him fully (which I thought I did). We started undressing each other but he asked me if he could keep his boxers on until he gets a boner. Since I was already in the heat of the night, I just said yes and kept his boxers on. He finally got his boner, and wow, it was big. Gifted, as I would like to say. I gave him the best sex for his first experience and I was riding him through the night.


Morning After

The next morning, I woke up because I felt the urge to pee. He was still beside me (thank God), sleeping soundly. I slowly took off the blanket to stand up and took a pee. When I returned, that’s when I saw it. His cock. His pole. His penis. It was uncut!! I couldn’t say anything at all. I was in shock. I felt like I was cheated. I felt like he didn’t trust me. I lied down on the other bed and I felt that he was already awake. We looked at each other and that’s when he realized it, his uncut cock was out in the open. He was shocked to see me and he quickly put his boxers on. He didn’t know what to do, and I didn’t know what to do either.


Tuli or Not Tuli, the confusion

After that awkward moment, he decided to leave me be. We didn’t talk to each other through the fone nor through downelink. But everytime I see his profile in my account, and his number in my phone, I couldn’t help but think that I really did miss him a lot. I think I was wrong that I judged him that time. So what if he was uncut? Does that make him less of a man? Does that make him less capable of having sex with the person he truly loves? I asked my close friends about it and gave a reaction that I quite expected. But they told me that it should not matter, as long as I still have feelings for him, and the same goes with him, I should accept him no matter what. I have imperfections, whether it may be physically or emotionally, but he was able to accept them w/o conditions. I decided to say sorry to him and asked if he wanted to still meet up with me. Fortunately, he wanted to talk to me about it so we met up again. He explained to me why he was uncut, raised by catholic but non-practicing parents, his father’s belief that being uncut or cut does not matter as long as you keep it clean, and stuff like that. I finally began to understand his situation and I accepted it. I told him that one of the things that keep a relationship impact is the imperfections of the two people involved. It keeps both people a “high” to get on with each other. He was happy that I accepted it and truly, it was (again) me and him against the world.

We have been in our relationship for almost one year now, and I’m happy that it has been going strong. Migs, I would like to thank you in advance for posting my story. I would like to share this to other guys out there. Thank you and I will still be reading your posts.

- Wat


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71 Responses to “ Tuli or not tuli ”
  1. di man tuli ay nabuburat din

  2. love can move mountains indeed…truly! saya!

  3. wow! 1st to post for the 1st time! wahaha! its me BLUE DOVE!

  4. i think this is more of a cultural taboo, i have 2 things to say one, on the medical perspective, that to be uncircumcised or uncut is “dirty” is not true! i’m a pedia and more often than enough i try to discourage parents from circumcising their sons, for the simple reason that it’s a surgical procedure with no apparent reason. no matter what they say, all surgical procedures no matter how “simple” it is constitute a 30% risk of inflicting more harm than good to a patient. if it is not necessary then why do it? is it just to conform to cultural norms? save the child (or anyone else for that matter) the unnecessary pain and blood lost. and two, you are an idiot for letting that guy go! thanks migz keep posting!

  5. I don’t get it. What was the big deal again? That he was uncut actually made you pause and think twice about getting into a relationship with him even if you really liked him? Isn’t that a little shallow?

  6. Dami ko naka sex na uncut sa US its no big deal. OA naman.

  7. Oh. Uh. Um… and the issue was? Not that I’m harassing the writer or anything, but I still don’t see the big deal with this. Still, I’m glad that he seems to be on his way to a having a stable relationship with his partner.

  8. This Filipino hangup is funny. In Europe or South America, in fact for majority of men on earth, circumcision is considered a mutilation.

  9. been reading this blog for the longest time. i can’t help but comment on this post.

    i just simply don’t get it. what’s the big deal about circumcision?

    circ in the philippines has nothing to do with christianity (most countries in europe are christians, but their men are uncut). it has something to do with the american missionaries who came with their scissors during colonisation and imposed their way of life.

    eventually, circ became a sign of machismo in the philippines, of “acceptance” in the community of men, etc

    30% and not above 40% of all males worldwide are circumcised, the rest, or the majority is not tuli!

    honey, you are missing the best dicks in this world.

  10. ako lang ha? parang mas feel ko nga ang hindi tuli,eh, parang mas masarap…hihihi

  11. Huh? Ano’ng problema? Get out of the Philippines, and you would know why your reaction is not only shallow, but funny. I understand the cultural framework you are in — but napatawa pa rin ako…what? you felt deceived because you found out that he’s uncut? Get to know the rest of the world, my friend.

  12. i’m filipino, but i don’t get why there’s such a big deal in circumcision. yah, i’m circumcised, but only because it’s a norm in the pinoy society. (btw, circumcision predates the catholic tradition. it started as a jewish ritual of covenant) what im trying to say is that being circumcised or not does not measure your value as a man. i honestly think that you are being petty by judging your partner. i can’t believe you reacted this way when others would kill just to get what you have.

  13. ares in uae

    Jul 3, 2008
    Reply

    Sus!

    Kaechosan! Tuli or not tuli is the same thing!

  14. Hey guys! thanks for the comments. Well, cgro nga shallow ang naging dating ko nun, since I was raised by a Catholic Practicing family. Tska since I was a kid, andami nang influences ngssbi sken na it’s important at kapag hndi, pagtatawanan ka and you’ll feel less of a man. Pero dahil sa hubby ko, I guess lahat iyon mali. Wala naman talagang issue dyan, the question lang is whether The Filipino Society has accepted having “supot” men, knowing that each and everyone is entitled to have their own beliefs and practices.

  15. I thought the article was very interesting, it was a waste of time. Because again, the story was told with fabricated lines. Like, when he was su_ _ ing it, didn’t he know that it was cut or not cut. He said he gave him sex, what kind of sex was it? Just pure imagination kind of sex?… I believe the article would have been more interesting if it focused on what is the preference of the readers, is it “tuli” or not “tuli” and why? Readers, can you please reply to my reply…

  16. hi guys, im new hir. comment lang po, ok lang naman kung tuli or nde. ang mahalaga eh mahal nyo isa’t isa.. =)

  17. Does that seems to be a big deal to measure a real (or likewise) man? From what I’d encountered between the two (cut and uncut, ok, I’d tested them already.) Nothing’s different, maybe, except, for how do they carry on. No, i’m not just imploring about the two for how does it taste like, maybe let’s just say that being tuli and supot only differed for how their “bestfriend from down under” look like. At the end of the lengthy mind boggles, it depends on us for how we’ll appreciate, or does it make that a matter for us…

  18. geez this is such an ignorant entry . . . entire continents of men live their entire lives uncut, and they still have the time of their lives . . .

  19. TO BOND…
    U have a strong point with regards to the author. He should know it early on and since his not a virgin as campared to his “partner”. I reckon the plot of the story was glamourised.

  20. di ko kaya mag suck kapag uncut. kahit gaano ka pogi yung tao.
    feeling ko kasi madumi. yun lang.

  21. i dunno wats the problem of this man? being a tuli or not is a no biggie….exagge!

  22. migz, sometimes try to filter some post specially if it was only fed by someone else… i knew this story a long time ago… it was one of the kwentong barbero that one of friend told me… nevertheless it’s SENSELESS!!! So 80’s!!!

  23. Haha! Ang OA naman nang nagsulat nito. Eh ano kung supot? Tumitigas naman at malaki pa daw. Magdadrama pa ba tayo dahil naka-hoodie pa ang pututuy? Anoba…

    And it’s not circumcision that causes a growth spurt. It’s called puberty. Pinagdadaanan yon ng batang lalaki tuli ka man o hindi. Bat di niya alam yon?

  24. i just want to quote the writer of the story

    “Boys begin to explore how to masturbate, watch porn with their friends (or even older bros), and even compare how one’s circumcised penis is different from the other boys”

    boys really explore this things especially the masturbating thing even when they are not yet circumcised and do you really think that all over the world the population of men is circumcised

  25. dr.phil, he's not

    Jul 3, 2008
    Reply

    damn that was shallow…

    and im not buying the whole, ‘dint realise he wa uncut till i saw it in the morning..’.. dude.. hard or flacid, when you stroke an uncut cock, yooull know. you had sex all night you say.. and you couldnt tell? you never touched it? youre that much of a bottom? oh why do i bother with the comments..

  26. my yellow shirt

    Jul 3, 2008
    Reply

    I don’t think that the story is fair. Just that hey I know it sounds cliche, but wasn’t that just superficial? I mean. Its like having a pre auricular skin tag. Or an extra nipple. Or even a tongue tie.

    Duh.

    I’ve not tried uncut. Been asking a friend to show it to me. Hehehehe. But he said no.

    But a rose is still a rose and would smell as good even if it weren’t cut right?

  27. To the man whose lover is uncut you made it sound like it’s an imperfection! Did you forget you were born that way? We don’t NEED to be circumcised! Being uncut myself I know that my glans is more sensitive and I can enjoy sex more with it than with a worn, battered, glans that has had to fend off pants for years. Why put up with this butchery?

  28. harrypotter

    Jul 3, 2008
    Reply

    babawal

  29. sa downelink?oh…meron din ako kilala di tuli dun sa Dl..his pure pinoy..as in pinoy na pinoy..pero grabe…ubaod na kagwapohan…pero hindi sya tuli…he admit it to me…pero ok lang sakin..hehe…hunky tsaka gwapo naman…lol..heheh

  30. ineng…taga-saan ka ba? hindi mo ba alam na karamihan ng mga lalaki sa mundo ay UNCUT? NA MINORITY lang ang mga tuli dito sa earth?naks naman…magbasa-basa naman ng konti para hindi mag-mukhang tanga…please? NEXT!!!!

  31. ano kaya lasa ng UNCUT? hmmmm…

  32. dito sa dubai, ang daming supot na ibang lahi….mga hindu….pero malilinis at masasarap….bwahahahahaha

  33. Nice story! Im sorry but I really can’t take it my lover or bf or my sex partner is uncut. Kanya-kanya lang namang view yan. It doesn’t mean you are wrong loving an uncut person. Im speaking for myself here. Sarado talaga isip ko pagdating sa ganyan. Kahit kamukha ka pa ni Brad Pitt I wont make patol. Sorry talaga, no way Id put my mouth on uncut dick. Don’t ridicule me guys. Siguro sa experiences na din eh. I have lived in the US for 2 years and have had experiences with Latino guys living there who majority is uncut. I mean they look hot at talagang guapo kung guapo but on the bed having a close encounter with their dicks was always unpleasant experience for me. THEY DO SMELL. The smell I couldn’t take. Even if they shower, may amoy pa din. They really have to wash them thoroughly like couple of times to get rid of the smell. Amoy kupal talaga and we pinoys know that smell is not good! In those cases we would end up the guy giving me a head or we do anal. Europeans and Hispanics are uncut I mean majority of them but it’s no big deal to them because it is their culture and they have grown accustomed to the smell whatever the smell is. Parang tayong mga pinoy we love the smell of bagoong which these people will find repulsive. Nasa kultura at tradisyon yan talaga. Maswerte tayong mga pinoy dahil tinutuli tayo. It’s not only hygienic and healthy option but being a Christian nation (Jesus was circumcised) we are faith- abiding people. The Muslims are circumcised too because it is in the Koran that they should do it. Many studies have confirmed the benefits of circumcision especially in fighthing AIDS problem and other sexually-transmitted diseases.

    You can tell your bf to undergo circumcision if you are not comfortable with it. Pwede mo siyang samahan and it’s never too late. Kahit anong edad pwedeng magpatuli. Look at what those guys at Pinoy Big Brother did, they had circumcision at their age. Marami pang Fil-Am in showbiz and PBA na nagpatuli din but I will not mention their names. I suggest mo lang sa kanya and you should be there to support him. Di naman mahirap magpatuli eh, sandali lang yan and healing is quick. Ma bo boost pa ang confidence nya. In the Philippine society, you will be the butt of all jokes kung supot ka. You will be ashamed to use the bathroom and be seen by the next guy peeing with your uncut penis. As you said in your story, sa first sex encouter nyo pinahintay ka nyang tumigas bago mo tignan. It means mahina ang confidence nya and he is really embarass with his situation. Talk to him.

    The bottom-line is, don’t judge your bf if hes cut or otherwise. Kung talagang mahal mo siya at may nararamdaman ka sa kanya, follow your heart. One thing that is universal in this world cut or uncut is the feeling of love. Di mo pwedeng turuan ang pusong magmahal, nagkukusa yan.

  34. fallen_angel

    Jul 4, 2008
    Reply

    *supot i mean

  35. broken_heart

    Jul 4, 2008
    Reply

    DR PAULO: Circumcision is not just a procedure/surgery. Of all people, i think you should know that circumcised people have the lower risk of having penile cancer. It is not just a “procedure” where there is unecessary blood loss or what not.
    It is important to someone’s psychological and physical well being.

  36. SUPER SUPER ECHOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. SUPER SUPER ECHOS!

  38. if u love a person accept..whatever he is

  39. pls naman. sometimes i think this site just lacks material and passes on whatver gay echos story is on hand.

  40. Just a note, circumcision has never been part of Catholic practice. In fact, go back to the Middle Ages, and a circumcised Catholic would be looked upon as an abomination, as it was a cultural norm of the Jews. Look long enough and you’ll find an encyclical promising excommunication for Catholics who practice circumcision– in fact, majority of men in Spain, Italy, France (and the rest of Catholic Europe, and also the Orthodox parts, mainly Eastern Europe), and South America are uncircumcised. Just saying, since I get the impression that the OP thinks circumcision is a Catholic thing.

    The Pinoy ‘desire’ for cut cocks is very much an American thing. To be honest, I prefer cut ones myself, but I think, to insist on them as a standard, would be ignorant of the worldwide situation.

  41. >>>>it’s sad to think i am a victim of a botch circumcision

  42. There you go fiction writer. Need I say more?

  43. isa pa yung CHULO…hahaha effort?

  44. this is a cool page!
    For me, being cut or uncut is not a big deal. Being uncut is not an imperfection either.
    chemistry ang importante, lalo na ang sexual chemistry…hehehehhehe

  45. Kayong mga supot Im sure takot nyo lang umihi sa public restrooms straight in the urinals. Kayo yung papasok ng cubicles kahit ihing ihi na kayo dahil sa takot nyong pagtawanan! Never you will let your friends see you in your placid state. You will forever live in fear and shame while you are in the Philippines. Lastly umamin na kayong MABAHO ang mga titi nyo!!

  46. whatfikissu

    Jul 4, 2008
    Reply

    @lucky,

    i’m uncut! and so what? it doesn’t make me a lesser person..

    peace man, as in rest in. :P

  47. -circumcision was never a catholic/christian ritual.

    -circumcision should not be an issue. uncut males all need to do is to clean their tool every day.

  48. Katy U Long

    Jul 5, 2008
    Reply

    i think this is purely a KATHANG ISIP! he just wanted an attention

  49. Anubeh, eh ano ngayon kung supot? At na apektuhan si ate. HAAHHAHAHAHA. yun lang.

  50. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!! wwwwwhhhhaaaatttt????? shallowwww!! so so beyond my understanding.

  51. daming ha. lumampas na yung iba. :D

  52. mightymikee

    Jul 5, 2008
    Reply

    Uncircumsized, it’s a big turn off for me…

  53. Little Fish

    Jul 5, 2008
    Reply

    kung meron lang sana ako choice during my teens life….. hindi na sana ako nagpatuli…… how I wish I’m not tuli

    Sarap ang di tuli…..

  54. sana di rin ako nagpatuli…hindi pa kasi ako tagpos when i was circumcized kaya may excess foreskin na naka-hang sa shaft ng penis ko…ang pangit tingnan!

    anyways, kapag may time ako at may extra cash…papatanggal ko yun..parang magpapatuli ako the second time around… hahaha!

  55. i dunno about the Catholic practices but many men in European countries dominated by Catholic faith do not even bother to undergo circumcision…

    so i guess part na ng Filipino culture (already imparted with various foreign influences) ang pagpapatuli even before Spaniards invaded us with swords and Catholicism …

    well, si Lapu-Lapu, i really wonder kung tuli ba sya o supot…

  56. Little Fish

    Jul 5, 2008
    Reply

    kung meron lang talaga ako choice….hindi ako magpapatuli

    masarao ang di tuli ah……

  57. to neon’s question, para kang kumain ng kamatsile! zarrrrrrrap! hahaha!

  58. uncut cocks taste better. (must be the (dumdumdum…) smegma. EWWW. pero, yeah. definitely the… smegma(oo na, baboy ako)) taga-manila ako, and my first one was uncut, but his cock was as good as (maybe even better than) any other i had since.

    and, good job/more power on wat’s relationship ^_^

  59. it’s a good thing things turned out well for you. I was about to cuss you out for being so narrow-minded. I cannot believe you had considered being uncircumcised an imperfection. Poor guy, you reinforced his unfounded shame of being uncut. You and your friends are ignorant.

  60. Colby Varner

    Jul 7, 2008
    Reply

    Babaw naman nyan, just because his dick has a hood…

    Long, short, fat, skinny, cut, uncut, a dick is a dick. Kahit hindi tuli may laban pa rin yan. Also, for a Pinoy, I prefer uncut ones (which is rare! and they perform better, on top or bottom.) Like Sam Jones said (SATC): It’ like a Tootsie Pop: Hard on the outside, with a delicious surprise inside. :)

    Unfortunately, na-tuli ako, and how I wish I could take it all back!

  61. I had 2 boyfriends who were circumcised as a baby. They healed well and the scarring was minimal… parang bel ami boys talaga. you can pull the skin to resemble foreskin, so i had the best of both worlds, the world of cut and the world of the uncut. Delicioso!
    I also have found 2 other guys that are bona fide uncircumcised… where did they go? Ang sarap… i just went crazy from the variation from the filipino norm, which is distugustingly so narrow minded.
    as for the story… kaloka ka, maraming takers as you can see…

  62. huh whats the big deal? my exs and my current bf are uncut…

  63. Circumcision was banned by the Vatican so kung sino man ang nagsasabi na catholic chuvah ito eh please magresearch nga muna kayo. Mas malaking percentage ng male population in the world are uncut. Mga filipino lang maaarte e. Yabang kasi maliliit naman.

  64. NARROW!!!

  65. depende sa titi yan, karamihan ng puting nakita ko maiikli ang foreskin nila dahil mahahaba ang titi nila, ang mga pinoy at asian maliliit kaya pag di tuli, mahahalata mo agad na supot

  66. baklamancutedin

    Jul 14, 2008
    Reply

    nakakakatawa itong posting dito hahahaha one thing im sure si Brad Pitt uncut hahahaha hadaaan ninyo or hindi?

    Im sure lol

  67. Its really no big deal. You’re actually exposing your parochial/provincial attitude to the whole world. In London, I’ve had a lot of big brazilian guys all Catholic, all uncut. Obviously, you havent traveled abroad (and exposed to whats really out there). Just in nearby Bangkok, 80% of the Thai boys are uncut! Agree whit Ligaya, di na Catholic chuvah ito because forced circumcision was banned by the church sometime ago, many young Italians (the seat of the Church) are uncut. Obviously you are also not well read.

  68. You know what? this is the MOST SHALLOW and STUPID thing I have ever read, I’m sorry, can’t help but comment about it. First of all, I feel sorry for your man(he ended-up with someone like you!), next, what makes cut men superior over uncut men? Truthfully, other than the stupid religious nonesense, I would say NONE(Hello!!! We’re in the 21st Century!)!!! All that matters when it comes to love is how you treat each other, how you express your love for one another, and basing from what you’ve written about him, he seem to really be a great catch. Physical aspects of the relationship is also important, but for you to consider blowing him off just because of that minor detail(not that he’s sick or something!!!) is pretty MORONIC to me. You’re LUCKY that he was still willing to take you back after your display of shallowness and stupidity, if it had been me, I would totally be TURNED-OFF by you’re reaction(so narrow-minded!!!) and you would never get a second chance(You should never had in the first place)!!! Honestly, you don’t deserve him!!! Hope he reads all of the comments here coz’ he’s better off with someone not as ignorant as you!!! And for you to write it down after a year into your relationship, obviously, you’re still not over it, coz’ you’re still making a big fuzz out of it! Anyway, I was just wondering, what kind of reaction are you expecting? Coz’ based on the majority of the comments you received, almost everyone’s repulsed by you! Everyone seems to agree that your story is both senseless and painfull to read!!!

  69. and WAT, please stop using that “I’m raised by Catholic whatever!” to conceal you’re stupidity, believe me, being Catholic has nothing to do with your ignorance… I myself was raised by Catholic parents, schooled at Catholic schools, but I never was once a bit as shallow as you.

  70. keEp_vEiN_opEN

    Jul 21, 2008
    Reply

    …hey hey hey…
    Is circumcision really an issue here?
    For as long as he’s clean, then that’s it! Period. No questions ask.

  71. salcedoLOVESforeskin

    Jul 29, 2008
    Reply

    I was cut as an infant. If I had a choice, I would’ve preferred to stay uncut.

    The so-called health benefits of circumcision were already discovered to be unfounded given proper hygiene. Babaho lang kasi kung hindi hinuhugasan. Recent studies relating to HIV infection, however, do suggest that cut guys may have an almost negligible advantage.

    Curiously, I met a non-pinoy Asian guy who had himself cut recently - he’s in his mid-twenties. I had asked him why and he said to control the smell daw. His dick looked kind of funny because it was somewhat discoloured.

    Some guys are smelly down there and it has nothing to do with being cut or not, it has more to do with hygiene.

    I’d prefer an uncut dick, mostly because I’ve always wanted to have an uncut dick myself. Being pinoy, most of my experiences are with cut guys so they’re ok narin…

    In the future, circumcision will be more of an exception than the rule, an optional mutilation much like piercing or tattoos.

    I totally understand the whole cultural thing though. We are after all strange creatures with preferences… and those of us who prefer not to be with uncut guys are welcome to hold on to those feelings. A little rationalisation would of course change that attitude very quickly.


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