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This thing was constructed on August 5, 2008, and it was categorized as Issues, Podcasts.
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I was not able to stop it. I was trying to hold the topic off as long as I could but it was no longer possible. I had to give in. The podcast has been recorded. The topic: “Religion and the Gay Guys” errr… maybe this title here is better: “Homosexuality and Religion — how do you reconcile them?”

This has got to be the the podcast with the most number of people in attendance. The whole Fabcaster gang was present (Gibbs, McVie, Tony, CC, AJ, and moi) plus guests Dennis, James, and Senan (AJ’s boyfriend). Nine folks gabbing so this is indeed a riot — but because of the topic, I’d say this one is among the most substantial podcast we’ve recorded. That being said, I invite you: listen to this podcast, reflect and genuflect, and comment away answering the million-dollar question: how do you reconcile your homosexuality and your religion?

Streaming podcast and MP3 downloads after the jump.

Part 1: 20mins

Download Part 1 MP3 (right click and save)

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Part 2: 29 mins

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Podcast Production: McVie
Music credits:
PART 1:
“Losing My Religion (acoustic)” by REM
“Beat Goes On” by Madonna.

PART 2:
“Ave Maria Guarani” by Ennio Morricone
“Like A Prayer” by Madonna
“I’ve Never Been To Me” by Charlene

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PLUS: featuring CC’s faith, featured in his blog.

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This thing has 12 Comments

  1. lonelygayboy
    Posted August 5, 2008 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    It’s either you create a new religion that tolerates homosexuality or you do away with religion all together.

    But that doesn’t mean abandoning spirituality. Religion and spirituality are two different things.

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  2. AT
    Posted August 5, 2008 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    If you want to be happy, there are two thing in life one should never take seriously–religion and politics.

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  3. Posted August 5, 2008 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    how do i reconcile my sexuality with my religion? i dunno. honestly. kse i am an ex “convict”. chak! bulagaran na to.

    sabi kase nila, homosexuality is not a sin but the acts are.

    hello?! ok lang ba yun?

    it’s just like saying na, “tinapay ako pero bawal akong kainin.”

    does that make any sense at all? kainis!

    it is an unfathomable question migs. makakasira lang ‘yan ng ulo. sobra. and people get to confused themselves.

    eto na lang, a thought to ponder.

    “if you were dead and you were asked by st. peter kung bakla ka. tas a straight guy said “NO.” to all his wishful thinking, hindi xa makakapasok kse requirement pala ang pagiging bakla to enter heaven. O dava?!”

    what if hindi ka makakapasok sa heaven pag d ka bakla? na mali pala ang teachings ng church?

    i have nothing against religious people because i used to be one. i just dont like hipocracy. akala mo kung cnong malinis, mas maitim pa pala sa aspalto ang pagkatao nila.

    peace! :)

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  4. butterflyrhai
    Posted August 5, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    religion and homosexuality can never be reconciled basically because the church condems homosexuality, but without religion there wuld be chaos, no rules, no laws in our spirituality, we can kill, we can steal, but supressing our sexuality as homos wuld kill our essence, and the list of arguments go on, my principle here in life regarding my sexuality is, god is forgiving to every human and i am human as long as i dnt hurt anyone and i share love ill be ok…

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  5. MrCens
    Posted August 5, 2008 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    i will still go to church though i am practicing immoral things. going to church alone would mean sacrifice of many things which can lessen my guilt. be a blessing to others (especially to your papa!) is a good way of living your life on this world…

    religion and homosexuality came to our way since birth na di na natin pwedeng ipaghiwalay even though the church is giving us standards. only HIM knows kung sino ang makakapasok at sino ang hindi.

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  6. Isa pang bading
    Posted August 5, 2008 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    I struggled for a while with reconciling my being gay with my being Catholic, and at times it was painful. But I’ve come to the conclusion that while the Church is right about lots of things, it’s wrong when it says that homosexuality and gay sex is wrong. The Church has been wrong before (the Inquisition) and it’s wrong on this one.

    The logic of the Church’s opposition to gay sex is flawed. How can we have sex within marriage when we can’t get married? And if all sex without the possibility of procreation is wrong- as the Church teaches (kaya nga bawal rin ang condom, di ba?), then why doesn’t the Church forbid sex by post-menopausal women?

    If this is a topic anyone wants to look into this further, google Andrew Sullivan, a brilliant gay Catholic writer who’s written extensively on this issue. Or look into the books of John O’Neill- check out this link:

    http://www.johnjmcneill.com/TCTH.HTML:

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  7. Posted August 5, 2008 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    i have no problems reconciling my faith and my being gay. my religion doe not prohibit me to love but rather endorses it. yes, i am happy being catholic and being a homosexual because i could feel the presence of God in both my faith and in the relationship i am in. my partner and i try to live the faith to the full by going to mass together and even participating in church events. being gay did not shun me from believing but rather it made me realize the omnipotence and mercy of God.

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  8. JC
    Posted August 5, 2008 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    i don’t care about religion (catholic, that is) because it will always be anti-gay.

    of course, it would always be anti-gay because straight men & women made the rules.

    true religion is showing compassion to everyone and not simply about the bible, prayers and inane rituals.

    besides, if im going to hell im comforted by the fact that i will see bishops, priests, pastors and other gay religious leaders there. bongga!

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  9. Posted August 6, 2008 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Since I’m neither Christian nor Muslim, I’ve had nothing to reconcile. Same-sex attraction and homoerotic sex are non-issues in many aboriginal, nature-oriented religions even those that have formal institutions like Taoism, Buddhism, and Recon Judaism.

    But just so every Christian knows, Jesus (in scripture) never said anything negative about homosexuality whilst condemning various “mortal transgressions”. He barely touched on the subject. If it were such a moral issue to him, why didn’t he outrightly condemn it?

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  10. sterling_love
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    migs & the podcasters group,

    a brilliant discussion of your group. i have learned a lot from it. before you have shared that topic, it’s one that really bothers me, between my homosexuality and religion . honestly speaking after the homo act, i still felt the guilt what i have done and sometimes i usually engaged every visit to church .

    especially that im living and working here in London. if you want to engaged to the act, you can just go anywhere, pub, saunas and even parks wherein many gayguys are looking some fun.

    you talk about being one-man-one-man relationship, and as long you believe you love each other and your doing both good towards other people and still always put the Lord in your life. and i agree to that. though i am away with my special someone, the thought that we are a couple… everytime temptations will always be there, i tried resist by being myself busy but sometimes i am still weak especially if we got some arguments.

    just enjoy life to the fullest and always put the Lord in your life.

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  11. Raymond Axaval
    Posted October 7, 2008 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    There is a difference between moral teaching and dogmatic teaching. A Catholic can definitely disagree with moral teachings of the church e.g. those involving divorce, contraception, homosexuality, and other social issues. Dogmatic teachings are the basic tenets of the Catholic faith. It is roughly summarized in the prayer, Apostle’s Creed.  One can still be good Catholic worthy of receiving  the holy communion even if you disagree with moral teachings. Ultimately its a matter between  you and your conscience.

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  12. Jay
    Posted October 9, 2008 at 3:14 am | Permalink

    The world teaches that you are not responsible for your actions. It is easy to develop a “victim mentality,” believe that you were “born this way,” and that have no control over your homosexual actions. However, the gospel of Jesus Christ teaches that individual responsibility is an eternal law. We are responsible for controlling our impulses so we can keep the commandments and realize our eternal destiny.
    The first step is to take full, personal responsibility for what you have been, what you are, and what you will become. Even though you didn’t ask for same-sex desires, take responsibility for your life today. Don’t feed your self-pity by acting like a victim of life and external situations. Don’t blame your environment or your genes for your situation. You are not a helpless victim of circumstance. You are a son of God with divine rights and abilities. You did not choose to have same-sex feelings and attractions but you do choose how to respond to them and your ability to change will be determined by the control you decide to take over your life.

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