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Issues and Migs SpeaksIs God Against Gays?
There was a time in my life that I seriously considered if my being gay is bad. Specifically, if God is against my being gay. Is God against gays? Then I thought, how can God be against anyone? God can never be against gays. But again, is He mad at what we gays do? Is He against two men (instead of a man and a woman) loving each other? How about sodomy? The Catholic Church and its priests say it is a sin, a mortal sin — but does God Himself really frown upon it? The Bible says God let fire and brimstone rain to destroy Sodom and Gommorah, where gay men practice anal sex — but does he frown upon it even if it is done in the context of love? Warning, you may read on, but I do not have the answer to these questions.
I asked a friend who I considered wise (well, he should be, he turned 40 this year) about this issue. A long and winding answer rattled on, which can be summarized with these two points:
(1) Do good, be good, and as long as you are not hurting anyone, you should be okay; and
(2) As long as man-to-man sex is done in the context of love, it should be okay.
I said, “Hmmm… I certainly comply to (1)… then, to (2)… erhmmmm… sometimes.” Does that make me a bad person? Will I go to hell when I die?
How about you, what do you think?
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Oct 30, 2006
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This isn’t the first time somebody probably had to confront the idea that God is against homosexuals. Well the book of Romans is rather explicit about why. Or rather it equates the replacement of what ought to be God’s by man. So in that realm of logic then people have become deviants.
Read your bible, they say. So I did. So it seems that not only homosexuals are the culprit, the whole of humanity (het and homo ) combined.
So homosexuality per se is not the reason God is angry. Its the divide that separates us from Him and us. Its like the eternal cold shoulder. And all that attends a great big diss.
So how does it go about that two very hurt beings bet back together?
Well I won’t do it. So God did. Again read your bible, we celebrate enough of the mass and christmas and lent that this very thing seems to permeate our culture that we disregard it.
That great big diss, is the reason for the great big sacrifice. So does God still hate you? Or me? Or the rest of the world in fact?
I’d like to submit the case to the contrary. Because like any other being who got hurt I think the most obvious thing to do would be:
a. ignore it
b. fight it
c. send it to hell
d. annihilate it so that a new beginning can be done
Yet I think you already know the answer. He did neither. So what to do? What to do with a God who won’t let you go?
Stop being the prodigal son and making excuses why you’re apart from him,just go back. He’s God for Christ’s sake. Its not as if he hasn’t seen anything you could possibly do. Or not do, that he can’t forgive it. Except maybe, the big diss.
Nov 4, 2006
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God is all knowing di ba naman!
Anything done between two consenting adult is just.
Nov 18, 2006
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morality is one tricky issue, no one can really say what is right from what is wrong? at kahit paulit-ulit nating tanungin si God, we somehow cannot get a straight answer…
one thing is for sure, God is not against gays. being gay is being who you are, just like any ordinary guy or girl. it’s what you do with your life that matters.
usually, when one person admits he is gay, it is assumed that he engages in homosexual activities, but there are a few who don’t, a blessed few who have actually conquered their urges.
so for those who actually give in to the urges, i think they or we just have to make sure that no one is getting hurt, and most importantly that your partner is doing it whole-heartedly. it is much better if it is done in the context of love, but unfortunately for many of us, it is not that easy to actually find a steady-loving partner, and even if one finds such a mate, the people around us can be so closed minded that one will have to keep it hidden.
Dec 5, 2006
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I do think that GOD is not against gays but in the Holy Bible, it is the sexual immorality that had been repeatedly warned as unacceptable to the LORD. Sexual immorality involves action or activities hence, being just simply gay is not despicable to the Almigthy. It is the perverted acts that the Bible is against. To be free from sinful activities, love only the LORD our GOD and keep on reading the LORD’S WORD.
Dec 16, 2006
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God is not against the person but the sin. In every sin that we commit there’s a spirit behind it. The bible said, “we are not fighting against flesh and blood but with the spiritual works of darkness”..so it’s not the person but the spirit behind it.
Dec 18, 2006
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there is no direct passage in the bible that condemns homosexuality. the sodom and gommorah story tells us that they were turned into pillars of salt because they turned their backs on their fellow men.
in fact, there have been exemplary same sex friendships like ruth and esther and jonathan and king david.
Dec 21, 2006
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sori to say but i beliv dat d bible is fabricated, dami na nagpatotoo nyan … the Church controlled that part of history .. and going back to the topic (hehe…), basta masaya ka at wala kang sinasaktan na mahal mo … ok na sa Kanya yun .. =)
Dec 22, 2006
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guys just do the things na alm nyo na hindi kayo magkakasala, malalaki na kayo and you know the right from wrong, diba?
Feb 20, 2007
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God loves us all whoever he or she may be..
Mar 30, 2007
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It says in the bible that God loves the sinners and hate the sin. Each and everyone of us is a sinner, hetero or homo. Once u accept jesus into ur heart then u wont go to hell.he already PAID for our sins
Apr 8, 2007
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migs, problem ko rin yan… you may want to check out the comments sa blog ko sa entry entitled “Lord, please help me understand!” Thanks! God bless us!
May 9, 2007
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migs,
first tym ko to d2 so i will introduce myself, im just 16 and im a bi, and im studying at ust ..
ung about sa “God against gays” issue, my share ako dyan, i have this one Values Education teacher who is a Cum Laude at UST also wd Ph.D at graduate school, i can tell you he is really smart …
we are studying Christian Ethics .. deep understanding ang inaaral namen, ung 2nd semester namin, about the 5th to the 6th commandment of God, bale ung 6th: “You shall not Commit Adultery” .. bale the gays and lesbians will fall for that .. (by the way, my teacher is an ex-seminarian) he said to us that cbcp or any catholic priests is not against gays .. kasi gays are artistic, kailangan ang mga gays ng church, eg. (choir member, florist, etc) of course if they are against, bakit ganun diba? ..
the true sin is that .. being gay is not a sin, God is not against that, God made us with two sexes only, male and female, if male start acting as a female, theres nothing wrong .. pero kasi pag ang gays nag start makipag-sex sa kapwa nila gays or boys, definitely may sin sila .. even ung “pagnanasa” or ung pinaglalaruan ung mga hot boys sa isip ung mga ganun ba? that is a sin, God is against it. kasi if you are a gay, its ok for as long as feeling babae ka or lalambot lambot ang fingers mo or anything basta wag lang yung mga male-to-male thing and ung mga sexual desires. ganun lang sya, diba ung sodom and gomorra sinira ni God kasi nag papratice sila ng anal sex etc? God is against that pero i repeat, kung gay ka and un lang, walang boy seduction,admiration or sexual desire … its 100% ok.
sa totoo lang marami pa sana akong sasabihin kea lang kasi masyado sya malalim baka hindi maintindihan ng iba .. ganun lang sya … i hope sana nakatulong to kahit konti sa mga Catholic Gays and Lesbians. .. . .
May 27, 2007
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basta for me. Love is love. Kahit sinu pa man yung minahal mo kapareho mo man o hindi. Nagmamahalan kayo so walang masama sa ginagawa nyo. diba?
Jul 25, 2007
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God is not against the person, He is against the Sin. At ang pakikipagrelasyon including sex with the same gender is considered LUST which is a SIN!!! kaya dapat, magbago na sila. They can remain gay if they want to pero wag na ang kasalanan. at sana lang, ang mga gay, wag na sila maninira ng family.
Aug 9, 2007
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Is God against gays?
In order to answer this (from my own point of view) we should first realize who is God. Most Filipino catholic parents introduce God to their children as a vengeful and scary god. I often see parents saying to their children, “Hala ka, Wag kang bad, Magagalit si Lord! Parurusahan ka ni God.” I strongly believe that this is wrong. Why should we introduce God to our children as a vengeful and scary god? Because of this, it influences our way of thinking and knowing of God (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.)
God is Love. God is the “Supreme Bonum” meaning God is all good. Now from this point of view, we can have a clear idea if God really is against gays… How can someone who is all good know hate? How can someone who is love vengeful or scary?
We are who we are because thats the way God created us (God created everything remember? So it means that we are part of His grand design. It means that God isn’t against gays or sinners because this is how we are designed and created.) You choose to be the way you are because God gave us one of the greatest gifts the gift of reason and the gift of thinking for our own self. No one has access to this great gift except your own self (Take note: Even God can’t manipulate your way of thinking). So now tell me, Is God against gays?
Additional words to ponder: “Why is there such words like ‘repentance’ and ‘forgiveness’?” God love gays and sinners! Because only them knows what does repentance, pardon and forgiveness mean. Have you ever wonder why the Catholic Church has been instituted bu Jesus Christ himself? The Church wasn’t for saints, it is for the sinners.
Aug 9, 2007
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MGG, can i asked for a favor? can we spread the word that God is the Supreme Bonum? and that God is Love. Honestly, if there is something wrong why people isn’t getting any closer to God its because of the wrong impression we have on Him. It might save a life of someone who felt that no one loves him. Sorry if I get too “holy” its just the preacher in me… Thanks!
Sep 3, 2007
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edmund white pls shed some lights to this topic, personally, I invoke the deity of Hindi, hindi kasalanan hindi kaipokritahan at hindi ka susunugin sa impyerno. OM G Jagidi Shahare Swani Jai Jagidi Shahare…
Sep 19, 2007
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also confused about that matter… i love God, and I know he also loves me like he loves everybody else… but am i really committing a sin for being like this?
Nov 1, 2007
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God does not hate gays. He loves everyone no matter what kind of a person you are. whether hete or homo, what God really hates are the actions that are immoral. Being gay is not a sin at all and the Catholic Church teaches this. Im gay and i admit i do stuff that contradicts my beliefs as a Catholic but im trying to be a good person and trying to avoid homosexual activities. honestly, its really hard! Only God’s grace can help us.
Dec 30, 2007
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hello well for me God knows the best. As a gay Im also human that need love. God is not damned who did not know this. He knows what I feel. Im human and God knows what I feel, I am not the creator of myslef, Im just following my heart. The heart that is created by God. Gays must live normally like other men and women, We have the right to live happily ever after. Fight the discriminination… we ahve the place in this world. To those who are judging that are not gays, well, hope you will have son’s who are gays soon so you will fully undersatnd! thank u bow
Jan 14, 2008
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God hates anything that is sin..
it dont take a college level idiot to read and figure out what God plainly says. It dont take a symolized code detector or some ancient hyrogliphic classes to learn. Its called common sense.
You know what is right and what is wrong.
God point blank told you that you should not sleep with mankind as with womankind or your an abomination to him.
besides, I will continue to poke fun at faggots, assrammers, assrangers, boyscouts with single fingers. I dont care, you will not ever be accepted by my standards. I with overthrow you and have domination..(stewie laugh)
Feb 7, 2008
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hello,,,,
i can’t say anything? it almost perfect to explained and answer the question…..
what i can say is that yeah,,, it is true that GOD is not against gays. all what you can see are talented people also that have feelings…. people surrounds us are making us sinners …like that you are engage in a sexual relationship that making us sinners…..advise don’t try hard to have one…
gays….as you are gay to not commit a sin don’t engage in a sexual act in the same sex . as long as you are living w/ morality in you…..we are not antisocial ,,, society are anti to us….
Mar 6, 2008
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With the permission of Migs.
Me,
I challenge you to ask your deity or your god to show himself to me and he and I will have a good talk about his creations and blunders.
E-mail me at jigenriztag@yahoo.com once your
god has confirmed the time and day he will see me.
Good luck.
Jigen Riztag
Apr 2, 2008
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all i can say is that…god created me.i did not just wake up one day and decided to be gay.
if god was not satisfied in creating me and every gay person in the planet…then he shouldnt have have taken his seventh day rest.
Apr 22, 2008
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Hi! I know that this topic has long since passed its prime, but for those who still check for new comments, here are a two good and substantial links that explain how homosexuality (and the sexual act of it) is not a sin. If you guys have the time, I hope you’d read through it. Mapapaisip talaga kayo.
http://mercytoall.net/dtm/index.htm
http://www.geocities.com/gayandchristian/vol2no2.html
Cheers,
Drew
Apr 22, 2008
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***read through them
Jul 1, 2008
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Jesus is the only way to heaven, if you accept Him in your heart, as your Savior, you don’t need to give up anything, as long as you seek Him everytime you fall, and He will take it all away. I am not trying to please any human person, because this testimony is true. It is the truth and the truth will set you free.
Aug 15, 2008
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HERE’S THE DEAL:
DID GOD CREATED US, OR IT’S US WHO CREATED THE IMAGE OF GOD?